LIVE wiki notes: 2012 Annual Housing Update
HOUSING BUBBLE: Very rough, LIVE wiki notes from annual #housing forecast from #MIT housing #economist http://realestatecafe.pbworks.com/w/page/50492485/2012%20Annual%20Housing%20Update #realestate
Restoring balance to the US housing market
55-65%
Ownership soared 1995-2005 from 64% to 69%
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What will happen to homeownership depends on what will happen to foreclosures
Two alternatives
If moving another 3M owners in renting, then rents will spike "horribly"
Strategy: Investors buy up foreclosures and rent them, Bloomberg: HedgeFunds moving into housing market to buy foreclosures, convert to rentals
Balanced: CANFLAZ?
CA
FL
AR
NV
National stats are horribly biased, and CS worse than horribly balanced: 40% of CS in cities where
Impacted states: 2nd home states, rampant building, overbuilding 2000-2007
Housing policy:
Theory that banks on holding onto a huge inventory of housing: not so, they are all in the MLS?
Balancing housing and the Economy: When will we need supply
Currently, housing market is only building 1/3rd of long term unit demand (500,000 units per year, longterm is
Cyclical household: 1-1.2M down from high of 2M in 1980's
Aging of population boost the rate of HH formation
There HAS to a housing recovery, really, really HUGE -- 300% increase, from 500K to 1.5M
How much surplus do we really think there is?
Rental apartment vacancy rate really
Homeownership rate: rose from 63% in 1965 to 69% in 2004
Policy alternatives:
Pro-ownership: 65.5%
Pro-rent: 64ish?
Rents more up and down with prices until the boom cycle --2000-2006 -- as ownership drops rents began to rise in 2010
Labor economist talking about
Ratio of rent to prices
2000-2005
Most states have a positive in prices relative to rents
Lots of markets had 20% increase in price to rent ratio
Alternative Models:
In Boston, the decline isn't any worse than after the S&L crisis
Different forecast
One says market go back up
One says go down
Another in the middle, flatten, then rise more slowly
What does the model say should have happened from 1998 to 2009
Think of this
50% increase in LA
30% increase in prices in Boston over what was expected
If do for cities across the country, big
All of the models you used in the past don't explain the housing bubble period
"I'd be loth to put any credibility into this forecasting model -- every single one way off
Most FL markets under-forecast by more than 100%
What drives prices & rent
1. The ratio of sales to inventory
What is assumed basis for inventory of housing, all units or listed in MLS?
Tight relationship of inventory to prices
Change in real SF price, %
The number of units per sale, as it drops and comes back
What really drive prices
How long does it take you to sell a house
Real change in
If you want to improve house prices, you need to increase prices and reduce the inventory for sale
2M units for sale in boom period, peaked over 4M in
Sales rate in 2011
5M
2008 real price change dropped 10%, on sales of 5.5M
Was there really a sales rate of 9M units in
What were the types of sales?
Duration starting to recover in 2008
Investment tax credit in
First time home buyers moved up their purchases, maybe three years
Duration shot back up
Existing SF 2007
Peak of the boom, 4.5 months, went to 11 months
Duration of determinants
What determines
Ration of inventory to sales
Duration determinants: US Gross Housing Flows (AHS)
Owner to owner: 2.249M (lists & sales)
US Housing Gross Flows (2001)
Types really important: Sales between ten year categories, when someone moves from becoming a owner to renter, ADD to the inventory of homes for sale
When someone moves from renting to owning, two prong effect in reducing duration
Lots of units vacant but NOT for sale
Availability: offered for sale
Some occupied units:
Availability rate & vacancy rates tend to track fairly directly
US Housing Gross Flows (2001)
New owner HH: 564,000 sales
Renter to owner: 2.46M
Owner to owner: 2M
Some flows have dramatic effect
1. Number of listings = owner exists
2. Sales = new owns,
The change in the inventory is 92K
What really matters is new home construction
Net owner change 2nd
National Association of Realtors says the
Key to recovery: Sales that also reduce the inventory
First time homebuyers
Newly weds have double positive impact
Flow model:
What's going to happen to sales
#MIT #housing #economist
What's going to happen to the homeownership rate?
One more year of a slight decline of homeownership rate, prices bounce back and stabilize
Sales gradually recover to 4.8M
Inventory continue to fallu, duration come down to six month
positive price growth by end of year, come back over the next five year, but no were near the bubble
Increase in construction
Projections based on previous relationships
No input into model except what's going to happen to homeownership rate & mortgage rates
Delinquency rate always 4-5.5%
Transition to foreclosure: History 5%, but rose to 9% at peak
Do we have a looming number of strategic defaults?
Shadow inventory of strategic defaults
Perfectly rationale thing to do
Negative equity of 30-40% in existing house, never going to recover value, rational homeowner says, "we'll walk," rent from investor, save up over 5 to 7 years, go back into the housing market
Dominant response in some markets
"Only" damage credit for 5-7 years
BoA concerned about housing markets where housing values have dropped by 50%
As soon as one person in your neighborhoods walks from their mortgage, others begin to do
Chicago economists say this is like a title wave, could be 1-3M more foreclosures
RECafe: What role might reVRM play in making sense of this?
Who owns these houses?
Not people who had subprime loans, where owners lost their jobs, they've already been foreclosed on
Buyers who bought at the peak of the housing market
In last six months, lots of original documents where analysts say these loans do not make sense
Internal memos from good analysts say:
What is it in the capital markets that made them take risks in the past, in the face of internal memos from 2004 on.... "Looks like a bubble. banks still went ahead, an agency problem
Next set of slides
Bad double dip scenarios: 2-3M more foreclosures, requires 2.5M people walking away from mortgages
Homeownership rates falls through 2015, down from 66% to 63% via a second rate of foreclosures
Prices don't turn positive, fall another 10-16% through 2017
Construction begins to rise in 2017
Flow model: Scenario from strategic defaults
Conversions responsible from the rental stock
35-40M rental houses
65-70M ownership (2/3rd ownership)
Rental stock
180 demolitions in
Building
Ton of condo conversions from rental to ownership in 2004
No hard data, have to estimate
conversion to rent, negative numbers -- 750,000 units per year
Rental supply being reduced by much more than rental construction
AHS
Track conversions
If conversions had not happened, prices would have been higher
in 2006, conversion from OWNERSHIP to rental, 750,000 to
Conversions
40% of all rental ownership in US is single family houses
Less than 1/2 of apartments in US are apartment complexes
Miami:
Had a huge condo boom in bubble, Goldman & other investment companies bought rentals, now 20-30,000 young people living in downtown Miami, not New Yorkers who vacationed in their 2nd homes as in the past.
If all it takes to begin a mass migration from a location where prices are already 30-50% upside down
OPTION 1: Maintain Home Ownership
Relatively little loan restructuring to date - 600-800,000 mortgage so far, why?
Borrowers often re-default -- 40% estimate in Boston?
Delinquencies often self-cure
Lowers the advantage to loan modifications
Explains lender interest, servicing costs
What about mortgages for loans underwater?
Mortgage restructuring for
One of several policy proposals to maintain homeownership
Write down the mortgage to the current value of the house
Write a contingent value contract, share appreciation upon future sale
Lender gets current value + contingent claim
Borrower gets lower mortgage + some upside
House remains occupied with no moral hazard
ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL
Option 2: Allow falling homeownership but move supply to keep duration normal and balance for rents / prices
Current calculated own-to-rent conversion flows are HUGE (0.5-0.7M annually?)
Who are investors -- Spring research
Conversion incentive proposal
Investors get an accelerated depreciation purchase an existing ownership unit, KEEP in rental housing stock for five years
Like 1980's but will Congress bite?
$1-$3B tax expenditure --
RECafe: Important of reVRM / HSID for renters
50% of foreclosures in four states, representing 20% of US population
50% of underwater loans are in this four states
Homeownership: went up
Investment vs ownership
2nd home, or investment
8% to 16% nationally doubled
Share of investment, 2nd home was as 20-60%
RESULT:
Housing bubble
7 of 20 metro areas in CS housing stats
Other 13 cities only up 30% down 15%
Assessing 2nd home markets
Vacant seasonal
Vacant other
Went from 8% in 1978
to 16% in 2008
Who owns homes in cities like Phoenix
Don't know how investors behave when they are faced with foreclosure notice
Will they HOLD, or get out all at once
Uncertainty
1998 made interest on second homes tax deductible!
Why should 2nd home mortgages be tax deductible?
If you're credit is destroyed on your 2nd home, takes you out of the 2nd home mortgage but not negatively impact your primary residence
Last imbalance
HH formation always greater than growth in population
Except for pass decade
2020: HH formation, likely to be LARGER than population growth
Pent up demand likely to cause 1.3-1.4 new households per year
ONLY constructing enough housing --- 500,000 housing units -- to house one in three of new households in the pipeline
At some point, will
What's equilibrium?
Historic equilibrium: build 280,000 more units than household, 80-100,000 demolitions per year, plus 2nd home purchases
Supply surged 2005-2006
Now not creating enough supply for future demand
Could be that a BIG stimulus will be generated by recovery of housing
Most of current problem with the housing market is in CANFLAZ. Rest of the country more like a typical strong recession: 1981-83, 1990.
WithOUT strategic defaults, a recovery in sales and prices about ready to start in 2012
With strategic defaults, housing prices experience a "double dip" dropping another 5-10% in 2012
Housing shortage looming
Pent up household formation will experience strong recovery when recession ends
With demolitions, 2nd homes, yearly total demand is 1.4M
Conversions can help balance rent-own flows, but new construction has to eventually triple
In short-term, very important to balance ownership to rental flow
As shelter, ownership has a vastly advantagous
Lots of consumption reasons to own rather than invest in housing
If you want to own a home, much better to own now than 5 to 10 years ago
Best time to buy a house is at the bottom, not at the peak - if people are rational, now is the best time
Are we seeing "around bottom"
Job growth in housing around Boston has been robust for past two years, Boston economy ahead of national economy. Looks 1991-1992, 20% drop in prices, don't grow really fast, but were near the bottom. Good places in suburbs and around the city beginning to rise
In long run, our
Probably last year was the ideal time to buy a house in Boston
At today's prices, the cash cost of owning is not a lot different than renting
$200K house in FL, not a lot of houses that you can rent per year for $675-$750/mo for 1,500SF house in FL
Rents in Boston: $2,000 for 1,000SF
$2,000 buys you a $500K house
More expensive to own in JP
House prices here have only dropped 20%
If long-term horizon, 2-3% per year appreciation, than still good decision to buy if mortgage more expensive than rental in Boston
Housing is a good investment if you combine the inputted rent as well as an investment
As a long-run strategy, don't want to encourage 2nd homes; but as a short-run fix to housing market, bringing international investors to four impacted states would create an effective fix
HOUSING BUBBLE: Very rough, LIVE wiki notes from annual #housing forecast from #MIT housing #economist http://realestatecafe.pbworks.com/w/page/50492485/2012%20Annual%20Housing%20Update #realestate
Secondary bubble: Increase in construction
Construction never causes a bubble, so not have a recovery in housing construction will help the market recover faster
Normal assumption is that rise in housing prices will result in rise in construction. More likely that housing construction and housing prices will begin to recover by the end of this year.
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